| V3TS vs FCC Clanbase Conflict |
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V3TS have decided to conflict this match due to the following being totally unacceptable: a) Before the match both sides agreed to record full demos. During the match both sides constantly reminded each other to record and also to stop before the map cycled. Post match, JediBitch of FCC did not make his demos available. Most of the rest of FCC however did. We consider this to be extremely strange and highly suspicious to why he might be concealing his demo. FCC insisted V3TS made demos, which we did, and are available (urls will be posted here.) FCC's reason for not releasing their demos, as they put it "we dont give out demos." Yet most of the rest of FCC bar JediBitch have made their demos available. Once again, this raised a certain suspicion over JediBitch of FCC. Although demos were not mentioned in the official CB rules, and therefore alone are not the reason for the conflict. b) In the opinion of *all* the V3TS players who played in both matches they felt that JediBitch was making suspect shots and displaying certain characteristics that we had previously seen in incidents where the suspect turned out to be using hacks or cheats. At one point in the match we asked one of our players (HuGoAGoGo) to "hide" when he was the last man left alive, which he did in some extremely obsecure places, yet *every* single time he was actively *sought* out by JediBitch. c) Raggedyman - Head Jolt CS Admin, and also the server op of the BiOGEN server, which was the server we played the first map on (de_dust2.) Took time to go through his punkbuster log files. He contacted V3TS on irc with, as he put it " For the complete log: http://dump.clanbiogen.com/serberus/cvar.log (cvars detected by punkbuster) Here is a section from the log, extracted so you can clearly see the cvars which are in use on JediBitch's PC. Evidence: [10.27.2001 22:45:26] CVar Violation: bot_fov=30; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 22:49:39] CVar Violation: bot_upper=3.0; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 22:52:10] CVar Violation: bot_range=10000; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 22:54:46] CVar Violation: antilag=1; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 22:55:50] CVar Violation: antilagscale=1.0; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 22:56:19] CVar Violation: antipunchscale=-2; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 22:56:49] CVar Violation: default_sensitivity=6; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 23:00:03] CVar Violation: radar_range=1000.0; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 23:01:36] CVar Violation: transent=255; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005 [10.27.2001 23:02:07] CVar Violation: zoom_fov=20.0; "I_am_Jacks_JediBitch" (22817) 213.123.129.227:27005Other PB log files: http://dump.clanbiogen.com/serberus/cheater.log (cheats detected by punkbuster) http://dump.clanbiogen.com/serberus/11027004.log (punkbuster debug session log) 11027004.log (punkbuster debug session log - local copy) The follow is taken from: http://www.crimeprev.org/mat/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bdf50f22152ffff;act=ST;f=14;t=950;st=120 Topic: Hope! (how to catch new cheats with PB), New cheats expose CVARS! Page: 7, mid way down the thread. ;CVARs for Half-Life Hack 1.3 cvar esp cvar esp_text cvar radar cvar radar_range cvar zoom_fov cvar transent cvar playerglow cvar smoke cvar concussion cvar flash cvar shake cvar default_sensitivity cvar punchscale cvar antipunchscale cvar antilag cvar antilagscale cvar antilagoffset cvar bot cvar bot_fov cvar bot_shoot cvar bot_upper cvar bot_lower cvar bot_delay cvar bot_target cvar bot_aim cvar bot_charge cvar bot_weapon cvar bot_range cvar game_modeCVARs detected by punkbuster which were active on JediBitch's PC: bot_fov=30; bot_upper=3.0; bot_range=10000; antilag=1; antilagscale=1.0; antipunchscale=-2; default_sensitivity=6; radar_range=1000.0; transent=255; zoom_fov=20.0;Currently CVARs are the *ONLY* way to detect OGC 4.1 and HLH 1.3. OGC 4.2 masks CVARs from Punkbuster and can only be detected by examining a debug punkbuster session log manually. These cheats can be enabled and disable using CVARs, since they are client hooks and not third party applications. When disabled the CVARs would read 0. As in this case the CVARs are not disabled, which suggests that the cheat *is active*. Now in my head, I read the above and a million and one alarm bells start ringing. To consider this a game of cluedo, piecing the clues together to try to figure out the truth. A quick recap on the above: 1.) All players are asked to record demos and are reminded constantly throughout the match. 2.) JediBitch plays suspiciously in the V3TS vs FCC match. 3.) JediBitch refuses to release his demo to V3TS when requested after the match. 4.) PunkBuster logs show that HLH (Half-Life Hack) CVARS are in use on JediBitch's PC and are NOT disabled. 5.) JediBitch makes no attempt to prove his innocence in this issue. Instead he chooses to ignore us and our requests to see his demo. 6.) JediBitch gives no explanation for the HLH CVARs detected by punkbuster when confronted by V3TS.d) After reading a lot of the match reports and comments on most of FCC's matches, most other clans have made similiar comments which related directly to the suspicious nature of shots and gameplay for JediBitch of FCC. Further reading of the PunkBuster boards, to find out what HLH actually does. Here is a list: Player Glow. causes a player to have a glowing shield around them Transparent Entities. misc entities that are not part of the map are transparent Invisible Smoke/Flash Effects. smoke and flash effects do not effect you Counter concusion effect. concusion grenades do not effect you Auto Aim. automatically aims onto the nearest, visible, target Auto Shoot. fires when a player comes into visible range Lag Compensation. the auto aiming features compensate lag based on ping ESP. draws "boxs" around players that are or will be in your fov ESP Text. draws the players names under with the boxs Conclusion: V3TS have found the above a) thru d) and c.) 1,2,3,4,5,6 COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE to confirm the match result. We are conflicting this match as we WILL NOT accept a result where there are signs of cheating (HLH CVARs) V3TS suggest a full re-match, a match with no cheat CVARs detected from *any* FCC player, to be played on a neutral punkbuster monitored server with automatic screenshot grabbing and full access to read the punkbuster logs for both sides, demos will need to be recorded from all players. We are still waiting for JediBitch of FCC's demo. If JediBitch's name is cleared then we will accept the current result, however, someone who would install a client side hook (cheat) and then not bother to re-install CS or find out its proper uninstall procedure....is "clearly a fool" and is definitely stupid for risking his/her good name/reputation. |
| Update! - Jedi's Response on CB conflict |
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JediBitch (Fight Club) 31 Oct 11:37 Reply I am a fool...... ok i WILL try to explain. Bear with me. 3 weeks ago i had loads of friends down for my 21st birthday....some of these ppl were from my clan. we decided that for a bit of fun we wound try out a hack.....since they had not seen one before. So we d/l HLH. We fucked about with it for the weekend and it was kinda a laugh i guess. Now i was told in order to turn off my newly aquired hack i had to load my own config. so i went into the game and typed exec tarl.cfg hew presto my cheats went away.....no more square boxes n shit So a week l8r (i had a play with it whr they left for a day or 2) i play the vets game and i get cought with the hack running.obviously this is news to me because i thought i had disabled the hack. BUT apperantly in order to turn it off u have to go into gamespy and tell it to use the old HL exe...(which as i couldnt even get it working properly in the 1st place i didnt know,i am stupid with pcs lol) So now everyone thinks i am a cheat....i can assure u i am not.....i have played cs for a long time and i am very good at it. we WILL play the game again under v3ts rules.... Aslo anyone who has ANY doubt in my ability pls see me at i9 where i shall 9wn u Thanks :/ |